Grand National
Having been away for a while. Is the Grand National been run as a handicap and if so is it a major or minor?
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Nope its a group 3. My entry unexpectly placed in a Group event so now it's stuffed
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glad to see its a g3 stops blatent handicap rigging and rich dont be so hard on ur horse they will be prob a maximum of 8 finishers judging by my trials last week
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Hi Guys as per the Welsh National and Irish National this week it will be run as a Grade 3 HANDICAP.
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might explain why manayina was running over 2m short of its best on debut then chris
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leecara wrote: might explain why manayina was running over 2m short of its best on debut then chris Thought we were tackling handicap fiddling?
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leecara wrote: might explain why manayina was running over 2m short of its best on debut then chris Yes it does, the horse had to race to get a handicap mark, 3 horses ran in this weeks Irish National...
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The schedule might have to be looked at as I have also noticed the lack of races over suitable distances to get a handicap mark. I had to run horses over inadequate distances to get a handicap mark as...
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Agree we need more races over Jumps Leon, hopefully we can go up to the same as flat next year, I would have no problem running extra ones as I am usually recovering from the night before on Sundays...
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Yes good points raised here i've been having sim probs too but as Season 1 was much of an experiment we are learning all the time and we will sit down and discuss all the topics raised for which this...
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Lets be honest, they aren't many races over 4m. Comply or Die is going over 3m3f today, the whole point of the Grand National is that it is the ultimate long distance test. If someone wants to upload...
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yes another good point Rich but most races over 4m+ are h'caps and horses that want a run in the GN wish to avoid those for h'cap reasons..no point in having a gr8 horse if it ends up carrying over 12...
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Well Comply or Die only ran in handicaps last season. Great horses generally don't run in the National, the Gold Cup winner is supposed to be the best horse in training. Red Rum actually ran about 10...
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yep good points too..although 'Rummy' in his latter days rarely ran..i e. after his 2nd win in GN Prob never see the likes of Rummy again due to the GN being an unfashionable race these days in my...
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If the Grand National is being run as a G3 Handicap and those with no rating aren't allowed to enter then why were horses with no rating allowed to run in the Irish National off 51 (and get frankly...
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Rich, as I said before the Irish National was listed as a G3 in TOM, therefore it would have been unfair to exclude horses on that basis as trainers did not know the race was a handicap. The...
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Yeah, I think the GN should be run as a G3 this season too then G3H from next season.
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I would personally like to see it as a G3 because of the handicap rigging issue. Next season review it but leave as a G3 I reckon. I would love to see how Murzim goes. Its a real star and Lee would...
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I think it works as a handicap, gives everyone an equal footing but only if they are forced to enter the Eider and two races prior to that in order to get a handicap rating. That way everyone should...
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Maybe we should upgrade the National and other sim races to Grade 3 in future to make it open to most and make a condition that a placing of 1-2-3-4 in certain qualifying races is essential to entry...
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